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but until now they've done little to agree on tax increases on tax cuts until that time. people in this building have none what's coming on tuesday yet they're only returning to get back to work just now. senate came back yesterday. house members, well, they won't be back until sunday. this afternoon house on senate leaders met with president obama at the white house. they talked for about an hour. afterwards president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner, who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority on minority leads are harry reid on mitch mcconnell to work out a deal on then present it to the house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they are can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, i asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on miedddle class families don' go up, that unemployment is still available for 2 million people on that lays
but until now they've done little to agree on tax increases on tax cuts until that time. people in this building have none what's coming on tuesday yet they're only returning to get back to work just now. senate came back yesterday. house members, well, they won't be back until sunday. this afternoon house on senate leaders met with president obama at the white house. they talked for about an hour. afterwards president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner,...
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president of americans for tax reform. norquist's pledge, signed by almost all republicans in congress, forbids signatories from raising taxes ever, under any circumstances. things come to a head in the summer of 2011. republicans demand the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the nation's debt ceiling. without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. both democrats and republicans deploy scorched earth tactics that nearly shut down the government and ultimately cost america its aaa credit rating for the first time in history. >>> but in a last minnesota minute compromise, both sides agree to $1 trillion in spending cuts up front, and another $1.2 trillion in cuts to be decided by a special congressional super committee. but a poison pill was attached. if the super committee can't reach a deal, automatic across the board cuts known as the sequester would go into effect, starting january 2013. at the exact moment when those bush tax cuts extended for two years, if you remember, would exp
president of americans for tax reform. norquist's pledge, signed by almost all republicans in congress, forbids signatories from raising taxes ever, under any circumstances. things come to a head in the summer of 2011. republicans demand the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the nation's debt ceiling. without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. both democrats and republicans deploy scorched earth tactics that nearly shut down the government and...
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lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to a deal, it falls apart because they have this fundamental disagreement about ideas. that's how we got here. they cannot agree on this basic notionation over this idealogical divide in america. >> what happens next? how likely it is we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington, d.c. right now? >> there's an infinitesimal improvement in washington because of the meeting today, but i still would say the odds, the people placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. still a little more hope than when we woke up this morning, but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. >> jessica, thanks. more now on the raw politics with "new york times" columnist raffle, and cornell belcher. the president said he wanted to see a straight up or down vote. as we mentioned, that will happen on monday in the senate. he could lose that up or down vote. >> what you're likely to see is somet
lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to a deal, it falls apart because they have this fundamental disagreement about ideas. that's how we got here. they cannot agree on this basic notionation over this idealogical divide in america. >> what happens next? how likely it is we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington, d.c. right now? >> there's an infinitesimal improvement in washington because of the...
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. >> we could tax all the rich people and cut their heads off and it would not help the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: talk now of a smaller deal that extends bush tax rates for the middle class and extends unemployment benefits. but puts off major spending cuts and reform to entitlements like medicare. >> we're going to end up with a small, kick the can down the road bill that creates another fiscal cliff to deal with with fiscal cliff. >> reporter: lawmakers are talking about how to retroactively avoid going off the fiscal cliff on a new congress. >>> the fiscal cliff debate is impacting people here in the bay area who's lives could dramatically change as soon as tomorrow. tom vacar is live at a highway work site in oakland and has the story of one woman and her looming fear. tom-- >> reporter: the people who work here are well paid and they're onvacaon. but for other people, the fiscal cliff might as well be a financial guillotine. though ilea thomas searches, she's been out of work for two years picking up any odd jobs as much as she can. >> it's been discouraging. i come in here thre
. >> we could tax all the rich people and cut their heads off and it would not help the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: talk now of a smaller deal that extends bush tax rates for the middle class and extends unemployment benefits. but puts off major spending cuts and reform to entitlements like medicare. >> we're going to end up with a small, kick the can down the road bill that creates another fiscal cliff to deal with with fiscal cliff. >> reporter: lawmakers are talking...
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and let's focus on spending not taxes. that is where the problem is. >> there's disagreement over what colin just said, the president seems to be dealing from a position of strength, is he likely to get concessions that he needs to get the plan through or is this simply about revenues? >> this is mostly about revenues at this point, i think any deal that you will see the next day will be very narrow in scope. we will mostly deal with the issue of revenues and it will show republicans really backing down for their no-tax position and allowing a rate increase of some kind, that said, i'm still very skeptical that they can get to a point that can get all sides agreeing to something and it's something that the republicans can agree to in the house. you know, there's a very, very -- a slim chance of that happening, but if anything happens, it's going to be a small scope deal and not the big about deal that they have been talking about for a long time. >> colin, are you at all surprised that john boehner has been sidelined at th
and let's focus on spending not taxes. that is where the problem is. >> there's disagreement over what colin just said, the president seems to be dealing from a position of strength, is he likely to get concessions that he needs to get the plan through or is this simply about revenues? >> this is mostly about revenues at this point, i think any deal that you will see the next day will be very narrow in scope. we will mostly deal with the issue of revenues and it will show...
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a main sticking point is tax increases on the wealthy. while some suggest raising taxes for those who earn a million the president wants increases on anyone making more than $250,000 a year. >> we just can't afford aself inflicted wound to the economy. the economy is growing. keeping it that way means that the folks you sent to washington have to do their jobs. >> in the weekly address they say congress must meet the deadline and pass a balanced plan that offers middle class tax cuts and reduces spending in a responsible manner. >> the president's proposal to raise taxes on the top 2% of americans won't pay a third of the yearly interest that's owed on this massive 16 trillon dollar debt. >> missouri senator roy blunt gave the gop weekly address. he said the president's tax hike would only fund the government for eight days. >> if no deal is reached here is a look at what could happen. 1.2million out of work americans will loose their extended unemployment benefits. california would be hit the hardest. 400,000 will loose those benefits an
a main sticking point is tax increases on the wealthy. while some suggest raising taxes for those who earn a million the president wants increases on anyone making more than $250,000 a year. >> we just can't afford aself inflicted wound to the economy. the economy is growing. keeping it that way means that the folks you sent to washington have to do their jobs. >> in the weekly address they say congress must meet the deadline and pass a balanced plan that offers middle class tax...
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lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to an agreement, it falls apart because they have a fundamentally different idea on the issues. they have this divide in america, randy. >> so what happens next? how likely is it that we'll go over the fiscal cliff? i'm curious about the mood in washington right now. >> there is an increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today. but i still would say the people who are -- placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. so still a little bit more hope than what we woke up this morning, but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. >> randy. >> jessica, thank you, more now on the raw politics, good to see you both. cornell, let me start with you here, the president said he wanted to see a straight up or down vote. as we mentioned that could happen in the senate. we could lose the up or down vote. >> you are going to see something come out of the senate. you have to pay attention to the tone
lower taxes versus more of a social safety net. and every time they come close to an agreement, it falls apart because they have a fundamentally different idea on the issues. they have this divide in america, randy. >> so what happens next? how likely is it that we'll go over the fiscal cliff? i'm curious about the mood in washington right now. >> there is an increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today. but i still would say the people who are -- placing bets...
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his plan for avoiding new year tax hike. >> luxury holiday cruise nightmare. not just happening on 1 ship nightmare. >> stern censorship changes over sea. one country insist all i know net users must do all i know net users must do before logging on. stay with >> late afternoon meeting at the white house brings some progress toward avoiding the fiscal cliff which is coming very soon. just a couple of days. tonight the president called the meeting constructiv constructive. mark matthews has look at the cost of going over the fiscal cliff if we do. >> president is optimistic but if deal can't be reached this weekend he will tell senate leader reid tiny introduce a fall back bill. >> bill on the floor that make sure that taxes on middle class family don't go up. that unemployment insurance is still available for two million people lay the ground work then for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps to take in the new year that. >> bill ass the president calls the bare minimum isn't what many on capitol hill had hoped for. it pushes off until next y
his plan for avoiding new year tax hike. >> luxury holiday cruise nightmare. not just happening on 1 ship nightmare. >> stern censorship changes over sea. one country insist all i know net users must do all i know net users must do before logging on. stay with >> late afternoon meeting at the white house brings some progress toward avoiding the fiscal cliff which is coming very soon. just a couple of days. tonight the president called the meeting constructiv constructive. mark...
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. >> t-minus three days until everyone's taxes go up. the politicians are in a mad scramble this morning. so, what are the odds of a deal to prevent disaster? >>> the price of fashion. are your skinny jeans a health risk? why doctors are warning of nerve damage, abdominal pain, heart burn, even blood clots. >>> is britney spears about to lose her job as a judge on a talent show? why simon cowell reportedly calls her toxic to the show's success. >>> and good morning, everyone. we've got a lot to get to this last week of 2012. can you believe this year is almost over? and of course, we're going to start the show with weather. take a look at snow falling overnight in illinois. the year ending with a one-two punch of nasty weather for much of the country. ginger zee will tell us how it will affect your travel plans. >> nothing makes ginger happier than a big winter storm. we'll talk to her in just a moment. >>> speaking of travel. this is exactly what you do not want to hear after you've ponied up for a christmas cruise on "the queen mary 2.
. >> t-minus three days until everyone's taxes go up. the politicians are in a mad scramble this morning. so, what are the odds of a deal to prevent disaster? >>> the price of fashion. are your skinny jeans a health risk? why doctors are warning of nerve damage, abdominal pain, heart burn, even blood clots. >>> is britney spears about to lose her job as a judge on a talent show? why simon cowell reportedly calls her toxic to the show's success. >>> and good...
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first, income taxes will go up substantially. a middle class family will pay about $2,000 more per year. gas prices will likely fall because individuals will have to spend less on fuel. you could see longer lines at the airport because budget cuts would force the tsa to cut its staff and retail prices may fall because declining consumer confidence would push retailers to offer discounts to get shoppers into their stores. >> the bowl game is all decked-out for the game this afternoon against the u.s. navy academy and arizona state. everyone's spirits are high and the game is bringing a boost for the local economy. >> many are here for an extended weekend. >> two teams really excited to be here and their fans are excited to be here. gosh, i think we are filling up all the hotels in san francisco. >> 33,000 tickets have been sold for the match-up. at&t park can take 40,000 so not at capacity yet. organizers believe it will be another banner year for the hunger goal. it's brought the city more than $130 million over the past 11 years
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extending tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less. and continuing unemployment benefits for the millions who will lose them when the new year strikes. >> that's the bare minimum that we should be able to get done. >> reporter: it's clear whatever happens, there is no time, now, for a grand bargain on the even tougher issues. cutting spending and raising the debt ceiling. >> we're going to end up with a small, kick-the-can down the road bill, that creates another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. how irresponsible is that? >> reporter: and does washington still, the stock market burns. dropping for a sixth-straight day under this uncertainty. americans are burning up, too. >> this is america. they should be working for the american people. >> can't believe we got this close. >> get in a room and don't come out of the room until you've got this thing taken care of. >> reporter: what the senate leaders hope to do is put together this deal, bring it to the senate tomorrow. then, the house comes back in session tomorrow night. t
extending tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less. and continuing unemployment benefits for the millions who will lose them when the new year strikes. >> that's the bare minimum that we should be able to get done. >> reporter: it's clear whatever happens, there is no time, now, for a grand bargain on the even tougher issues. cutting spending and raising the debt ceiling. >> we're going to end up with a small, kick-the-can down the road bill, that creates another fiscal...
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the cliff won't just stop at taxes. some fear banks will tighten up on consumer lending, meaning you might not be able to get the new loan for a car or a home. with me now is sheila bair, the former chairman of the fdic and author of the new book "take the bullhe horns." thanks for coming on with me. >> thanks for having me. >> president obama met with top party leaders friday saying he was moderately optimistic. with your washington negotiation experience, where do you really think they are in the process? are you really any closer to a deal, or is this just more posturing? >> i think this whole mess is really embarrassing spectacle. this should have been resolved long ago, and i do think, actually, they are going to get a deal, but i think it will be more along the lines of kicking the can down the road. i don't think, at least from this point what i'm hearing, we'll get meaningful debt reduction. certainly mot month-onot meaninx reform. perhaps a permanent restructure of the tax reforms those making under $150,000. t
the cliff won't just stop at taxes. some fear banks will tighten up on consumer lending, meaning you might not be able to get the new loan for a car or a home. with me now is sheila bair, the former chairman of the fdic and author of the new book "take the bullhe horns." thanks for coming on with me. >> thanks for having me. >> president obama met with top party leaders friday saying he was moderately optimistic. with your washington negotiation experience, where do you...
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he says the least congress can do is protect most american tax pairs from rising tax rates due to take effect in the next couple of days. the least, it appears, rebecca, appears to be the most they can do. >> thank you. we'll check back later in the program. for more on how we got into this situation and what happens if nothing happens. michael santoly, it's great to have both of you with us. where does this stand right now? >> right now they're negotiating and things are being worked out behind closed doors by the top leaders in the house and senate and the white house, but particularly on the senate side right now and the question is can the senate leaders get together and come up with a plan that can pass through the senate that will at least give us a band-aid to prevent all these fiscal cliff measures from kicking in. but then after that can it pass the house of representatives and will speaker john boehner be able to find a way to get it through that might require actually mostly democratic votes which will leave republicans very unhappy with him. you'll have a couple of needles
he says the least congress can do is protect most american tax pairs from rising tax rates due to take effect in the next couple of days. the least, it appears, rebecca, appears to be the most they can do. >> thank you. we'll check back later in the program. for more on how we got into this situation and what happens if nothing happens. michael santoly, it's great to have both of you with us. where does this stand right now? >> right now they're negotiating and things are being...
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the idea of sort of flat taxes or national retail sales tax, taxes have long been proposed and talked about. i mean, i think fundamentally, it sounds appealing, but, you know, what you're really talking about is relative to what we do now. you're talking about a much different way of raising -- much more revenue from lower and middle income people and less from the very rich. my sense is that's not where the american people are at. there is this sort of sense that higher income people raising the dollar revenue from them is sort of less harmful than it is from lower income folks. so, i mean, those debates are worth having, but i think when you actually get down to the specifics and play it out, things like a straight flat tax or national retail sales tax don't make a lot of sense. host: we've been talking with joseph rosenberg, a research associate at the tax policy center. if you want to get more information about the work that they do, you can go to our website, taxpolicycenter.org. part of the urban tax policy working center. thank you very much for being on the program. guest: tha
the idea of sort of flat taxes or national retail sales tax, taxes have long been proposed and talked about. i mean, i think fundamentally, it sounds appealing, but, you know, what you're really talking about is relative to what we do now. you're talking about a much different way of raising -- much more revenue from lower and middle income people and less from the very rich. my sense is that's not where the american people are at. there is this sort of sense that higher income people raising...
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the headline, you know, item is tax estimates. tax revenues and where tax rates will increase. what's the threshold. democrats have been saying that they would like tax increases to affect households that make $250,000 and more. they would also insist on extending unemployment benefits. they would like to see -- the president would like a delay in those automatic spending cuts, those massive spending cuts that congress set into motion that should hit beginning in the new year. and then also an increase in the estate tax, which is also planned to hit in the new year. republicans would like, in order to be able to vote for some sort of deal, to limit that threshold and where -- a limit the threshold where the tax increase hits so maybe instead of $250,000 maybe $400,000, a way to avoid that estate tax increase, they would like no delay in those spending cuts, so that they will start to hit in the new year. and they would like democrats to agree to pay for the unemployment benefits. now we don't know if -- which of these items would be in the deal they're working out today, except
the headline, you know, item is tax estimates. tax revenues and where tax rates will increase. what's the threshold. democrats have been saying that they would like tax increases to affect households that make $250,000 and more. they would also insist on extending unemployment benefits. they would like to see -- the president would like a delay in those automatic spending cuts, those massive spending cuts that congress set into motion that should hit beginning in the new year. and then also an...
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that's an extra $900 before taxes. currently members of congress make $174,000 a year except for leaders who make a little more. the last time there was a pay raise was 2009. >>> there is one thing the senate has agreed on, getting aid to victims of superstorm sandy. by a 61-33 vote the chamber passed a measure offering $60 billion in help. it heads to the house which must approve the bill by thursday or else the process to consider the money has to start all over again. at least 113 people were killed when superstorm sandy hit in late october. the governors of new york and new jersey, the hardest hit states, have estimated damages at more than $78 billion. >>> and turning to weather. even though winter is just over a week old, millions of americans probably can't wait for spring to arrive. me, as well, yes. scenes like this in maine are playing out all across the country as snow is now on the ground in almost 65% of the lower 48 states. at least everybody's enjoying it together. look at this video from arkansas where
that's an extra $900 before taxes. currently members of congress make $174,000 a year except for leaders who make a little more. the last time there was a pay raise was 2009. >>> there is one thing the senate has agreed on, getting aid to victims of superstorm sandy. by a 61-33 vote the chamber passed a measure offering $60 billion in help. it heads to the house which must approve the bill by thursday or else the process to consider the money has to start all over again. at least 113...